NYT: Obama Roolz, Bill Clinton Droolz
Posted by: madamab on: May 30, 2009
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Bill Clinton, a Real President
Several of our Widdershins commenters have pointed me to this article on Bill Clinton in the New York Times. I haven’t read the Times regularly since 1994, and now I remember why.
See if you can spot the ObamaNation talking points scattered throughout the propaganda piece. (Don’t worry, I’ll help you out.)
Bill Clinton loves to shop. On a March day in an elegant crafts store in Lima, the Peruvian capital, he hunted for presents for his wife and the women on his staff back home. He had given a speech at a university earlier and just came from a ceremony kicking off a program to help impoverished Peruvians. Now he was eyeing a necklace with a green stone amulet.
Standing all by himself, the former president of the United States moved his eyes methodically across shelves of wooden carvings, jewelry and sculptures as he searched for something distinctive to bring his wife. “She used to look forward to me coming home from wherever I’ve been,” he mused with a laugh. “Now I’m afraid I’ll be second fiddle to whatever world leader she’s just met.”
Talking Point: Bill’s a girl! He likes to shop! He’s totally emasculated by Hillary’s appointment as Secretary of State. Obama Roolz, Clinton Droolz!
The advent of a new Democratic administration, with his wife in the top cabinet slot, has opened a new chapter in the eventful life of the nation’s 42nd president. No longer in exile, yet not exactly in the inner circle, Clinton is trying to define his role and find his place in the Age of Obama. He agreed to some limits on his activities to satisfy the good-government advocates around Obama, but he is still traveling the globe, pushing his favorite philanthropic programs, collecting six-figure checks for speeches, dining with foreign leaders and in his own way speaking for America again. A couple of weeks ago, he agreed to serve as the United Nations special envoy to Haiti.
Talking Point: See? Obama has only been in office five months and already he’s got an Age. An Age, I tell you! He is the most historical-est, bestest Preznit EVAH! And did Bill have a clothing line and his own TeeVee station? I don’t THINK so! Obama Roolz, Bill Clinton Droolz!
No one has combined the roles of former president and cabinet spouse before, and the lines are blurry. After Hillary Clinton’s nomination for secretary of state was announced, the telephones at her husband’s office rang as various ambassadors tried to go through him to get a meeting. The foreign leaders he meets with now ask after his wife and know they can use him to get messages to her. But Obama has not tapped Clinton to do anything significant for the new administration yet. Unless Obama messes up, says a former top Clinton aide, “President Clinton is irrelevant.” Obama does not need him. “This is not a circumstance in which Bill Clinton is going to have much of a role,” the aide says.
Talking Point: Bill Clinton is irrelevant. (Okay, that one was easy.) No one needs him, no one cares about him. Obama Roolz, Clinton Droolz!
For both the trip to Davos and the trip to South America that I joined, Clinton said he checked first with Jim Jones at the National Security Council. “I say: ‘Look, I’ve been invited to go to this place. These people will be there. Do you want me not to go?’ ” he told me early last month. “If they want me to make any points on their behalf, I’ll do it. I really do believe there can only be one president at a time.” A White House official later told me that Clinton also checked with Jones before agreeing to take the United Nations post [as ambassador to Haiti].
Talking Point: Bill Clinton has to ask Obama for permission to go to the bathroom! Ha! Ha! Ha! Obama Roolz, Clinton Droolz!
…At one point he devoted days to campaigning in South Carolina against the wishes of her strategists, only to watch her lose the primary.
Talking Point: Bill Clinton was why Hillary lost South Carolina, not because of the demographics of the state, and certainly not because of all the racial smears that the ObamaNation propagated against her! Obama Roolz, Clinton Droolz! And speaking of those accusations of racism:
“None of them ever really took seriously the race rap,” he told me. “They knew it was politics. I had one minister in Texas in the general election come up and put his arm around me.” This was an Obama supporter. “And he came up, threw his arm around me and said, ‘You’ve got to forgive us for that race deal.’ He said, ‘That was out of line.’ But he said, ‘You know, we wanted to win real bad.’ And I said, ‘I got no problem with that.’ I said it’s fine; it’s O.K. And we laughed about it and we went on.” The other side is moving on, too. Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, who once recalled an angry Clinton berating him on the phone for criticizing the former president’s campaign rhetoric, is letting bygones be bygones, at least publicly. “No fence-mending is needed,” Clyburn said through a spokeswoman.
Talking Point: It’s fine to smear the “first black president’ with racist accusations, even though you know they’re total and complete bullshit. It’s just politics! And don’t worry, Obama will do it again and again to whomever tries to fight him on anything – and you’d better excuse it just like Bill Clinton! Obama Roolz, Clinton Droolz!
Rahm Emanuel, who was a senior adviser to Clinton and now is chief of staff for Obama, recently described the current White House as a far more cohesive operation than his last one. “We don’t, rather, have the kind of New Democrats versus traditionalist split that existed in that White House,” he said on CNBC. “We don’t have in this White House the president-versus-vice-president staff divisions that have been in other White Houses.” Emanuel credited “the tone and tenor that the president of the United States has set in expectations.” The next day on ABC, he suggested Obama would rank among the best American leaders, comparing him with “successful presidents and transformative presidents” like Franklin D. Roosevelt, Kennedy and Reagan. Emanuel made no mention of Clinton.
Talking Point: Well, duh.
I noticed that in all the many comparisons of the two Presidents contained within this article, no mention was made of Clinton’s great commitment to gender equity. He appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court, a woman and a real liberal to boot, and half of his Cabinet was made up of women. For this commitment, columnists in the New York Times derided and attacked him mercilessly. To add insult to injury, there is a great deal of “golly gee, maybe I shouldn’t have said Clinton killed Vince Foster cause it wasn’t true” type of way-too-fucking-late apologizing from the wingnuts who were responsible for crucifying him day after day in the corporate media, while the columnist is strangely silent about the crucial role the New York Times played in hyping every made-up scandal until it died a whimpering, embarrassed death.
I’ll tell you the thing that really disturbed me about this article, besides all the fawning over Obama and His Holy Awesomeness. It was this idea of the “transformative” Presidency. Apparently being a “transformative” President is somehow more desirable than being a successful one, which even the Koolaid-swilling RahmBo Emanuel admits Bill Clinton was. And yet, all the Obamans say that Reagan was “transformative.” Um, if Reagan is the model Obama is following, then I’d rather have “successful,” thank you very much.
I am very, very troubled by where this country is going. I see the Left closing its eyes and leaping off a cliff with Obama, thinking there is still a safety net underneath it, and that nothing will happen except a hell of an exciting ride. But hear the words of J-Som of Liberal Rapture, who perfectly encapsulated the way I feel about what Obama is doing to those of us on the left-leaning side of the aisle:
I think – ‘no, I shouldn’t get over it’. I see no reason to “get over it”. A “planned” mistake of epic proportions was foisted on us last year .
And I can’t get around the sense that it may be our final mistake. The mistake that ends the possibility for redemption. The one who comes after Obama shoud be as big a concern now for thinking people as Obama himself.
This mistake aided and abetted in corrupting the Left to its core – with the Left being willing, deluded participants. The far Right is alive now. Alive with passion and ideas. The Left, contrary to MSM blathering, is DEAD. A bunch of lost, confused, disempowered fools.
Exactly right. I can only “hope” that as we keep to our principles, and critique Obama from the left, that more and more Obama supporters (not Obots, they can kiss Angie’s ass!) will join with us PUMAs and make us into a force to be reckoned with.
PUMA POWER!
57 Responses to "NYT: Obama Roolz, Bill Clinton Droolz"
May 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Exactly right madamab! I agree with JSOM as well, we better be on our guard from here on out. When I read that story in the NYT, I thought it was a good read because I discounted the mandatory Obiteme fluffing. Thanks for pointing it out.
May 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Anytime, guys.
I do think that despite the propaganda, Bill still managed to show the amazing person he is. When I read the part about how Pooty-Poot greeted him (taking him off for drinks and private conversation, a true friend), I teared up. Imagine if this was how Medvedev greeted Obama; or Sarkozy, or Brown, or even Netanyahu!
May 30, 2009 at 8:00 PM
He agreed to some limits on his activities to satisfy the good-government advocates around Obama
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Who would that be? /snark
May 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Well, madamab, I can’t imagine any of the aforementioned heads of state having any true deference for Sir Barksalot, can you? They can pretend, but they must know he is a total schnook and respond accordingly in their spontaneous non-response.
May 30, 2009 at 8:14 PM
This is a good quote, madamab:
“And I can’t get around the sense that it may be our final mistake. The mistake that ends the possibility for redemption. The one who comes after Obama shoud be as big a concern now for thinking people as Obama himself.”
I have been sensing impending doom as well, to the point that I cannot even imagine there being someone after the big BO capable of putting Humpty Dumpty back, intact, or at least sutured.
May 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Good question, JeanLouise…I certainly haven’t noticed any good government people in his administration!
Lililam – it’s so obvious to true heads of state that Obama is an empty poseur.
May 30, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Guys, the country is going to get worse. How do I know this? Obama is playing politics with everything. He has even politicized which Chrysler Dealerships get closed. If you donated big to Republicans you’re shit out of luck. He’s also not supporting any laws that would prevent pay-to-play politics in the dolling out of the stimulus money, because he is the epitome of pay-to-play. The stimulus should be called the Obama re-election fund. I truly do not believe his main concern is to successfully run the country. Everything he does is about his political career. If this is true, then he can’t do anything but drive us farther into a hole. I’ve seen the results of nepotism and pay-to-play working for the government for 4 years. What you get is over priced product that doesn’t function well. It is just a matter of time until the incompetence becomes fully evident to everyone. For Bush it happened for most people after the 2004 election. My sincere hope is that people catch on to Obama before 2012. Otherwise, I’m not sure our country will be able to stand the results of eight years of this parasite.
May 30, 2009 at 8:22 PM
It just occurred to me that if BO ever saw the kinds of things we have been saying about him, his first desire would be to treat us as Stalin treated his detractors. I think he is capable of that kind of rage. I don’t think that would ever happen to such a degree, but the roots of pathology are similar, don’t you think?
May 30, 2009 at 8:23 PM
A highly socialized sociopath doesn’t like to be told what to do…this has Obama’s fingerprints all over it:
“WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Obama administration has informed a federal judge it will continue to invoke the “state secrets” privilege in a legal battle with an Islamic charity suspected of funding terrorism.”
(snip)
“The immediate issue is Walker’s May 22 order to show cause as to why the government should not be sanctioned for “failing to obey the court’s orders” to turn over classified information.”
(snip)
“The Obama administration argument concludes with a direct challenge to the judge “to recognize that the imposition of discovery sanctions is not a lawful, appropriate, or productive alternative.”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/30/court.state.secrets/index.html
Well, we now have an annoyed dear leader telling a Federal Judge that his orders are illegal. I should be getting a e-mail from the ACLU asking for money to fight this case…but they still won’t blame Obama.
May 30, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Yes, lililam, I was calling him O’Stalin months ago. I really feel he can go into that mode of totalitarian, narcissistic paranoia.
Mawm – you are 100% right. He has no concern whatsoever for running the country. Just like the Bushies, he sees the U.S. Treasury as one giant cash register, which he can easily open any time he wants in order to throw money at all his cronies. He is OBushMa!
May 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Thanks for reminding me of the difference, SHV, BO is highly socialized, whereas Stalin was a bit more of a primitive sociopath.
May 30, 2009 at 8:31 PM
MB: I still think that overall, the article was a good one on Bill.
We got an explanation of why he had those blowups during the campaign and I think he did a good job of retrospective analysis of his own presidency. Also, it showcased how much he’s done with the Foundation and other things he’s done (the tsunami relief fund and Katrina relief fund with George the first) since leaving the White House. He’s still relevant no matter who wants to say otherwise.
So he has to ask “permission” for whatever cuz HRC is SOS. Once she leaves that post he’ll probably tell them to kiss his ass.
Obama and Emmanuel will never admit how good a Prez Clinton was, and they’re having delusions of grandeur if they think Obie will rank up with FDR. Just cuz you keep telling me so don’t make it so Rahm.
At the rate he’s going, Obie will rank right up there with Jimmy Carter and Millard Fillmore. 
May 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Fredster, have you recovered from the Porcine Plague yet, or was it just allergies?
May 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM
In an interview in the Oct. 2007 issue of NY Magazine, Benazir Bhutto offered advice to Hillary Clinton. Bhutto was also asked:
“Any advice for Bill on the campaign trail?”
Bhutto replied:
“All I can tell him is that either way, you won’t win. Not if you disappear and not if you’re there campaigning. He’ll have to go by his instincts.”
(You can read the rest of the interview here: http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/38043/)
I thought of Bhutto’s words shortly after the N. H. primary when the media was choking on its collective embarrassment at Hillary’s win despite their best efforts at sabotaging her. But I also noticed that almost simultaneously, the same media began an all out offensive attack on Bill , and its demented “liberal” punditry continued to caricature him throughout the rest of the campaign; all part of the strategy to destroy Hillary and make Obama president.
May 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM
his first desire would be to treat us as Stalin treated his detractors.
Well he just got his cyber security czar. Who knows what excuse could be used to pull the plug?
May 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Bill Balanced the Budget after years and years of run-away Republican deficits.
HillBuzz has an excellent post about the economy up.
http://hillbuzz.org/2009/05/29/the-economy-is-much-much-worse-than-dr-utopia-wants-you-to-realize/
The Economy Is Much, Much Worse Than Dr. Utopia Wants You to Realize
“It was stunning and sickening and heartbreaking and TERRIFYING all at the same time, because when we were kids and asked our grandparents what the Great Depression was like and how they first realized there was inescapable trouble coming, THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID THEY NOTICED FIRST.
Office workers eating garbage in broad daylight on the street. Former business people prostituting themselves on Craigslist or giving handjobs to strangers in alleys for twenties. People selling their big screen TVs to pawn shops for $100 to try to make their rent and avoid eviction.”
May 30, 2009 at 8:44 PM
lilliam: I think it was either the allergies or just sinus. I did buy one of those netti pots and used it daily. At first I thought it was my own little form of waterboarding! HA! However, I think it really helped, especially before bed.
May 30, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Hey MB, Obama is having a date night in NYC tonight.
President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama landed in New York City late Saturday afternoon for a Manhattan date night that was to include a Broadway show.
A spokesman read a statement from Obama: “I am taking my wife to New York City because I promised her during the campaign that I would take her to a Broadway show after it was all finished..
From an earlier report from Michaels as the presidential party took off from Washington: “Three presidential helicopters descended on Andrews Air Force Base about 3:42 p.m. A group of about 20 people, a few members of the military wearing camouflage and what must have been their families, watched from a distance of 50 to 75 yards.
“Exactly five minutes later, President Obama and Michelle Obama stepped down from Marine One. POTUS was business casual, but very sharp, in a dark blue suit and black shoes. His white shirt was unbuttoned at the top — no tie. Mrs. Obama wore a black cocktail dress and black heels. Her hair was up and she held a small blue purse, which I’m informed is called a clutch. They boarded a presidential Gulfstream 500 and we took off shortly before 4 p.m. en route to New York City, where the first couple is to have dinner
and watch a play, ‘Joe Turner’s Come and Gone’ at the Belasco Theater. The name of the production is courtesy of the New York Daily News.”
what a fucking waste of money. where is the outrage? I’d rather he go somewhere and cut brush. I didn’t even know the president had a gulfstream. And three helicopters??? I bet he’s the greenest president too. Worse. Than. Bush. and that ain’t easy…
May 30, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Yup, he’s betting everything on his winning cult of personality. Congress looks smothered. Maybe Nancy doesn’t care as long as she gets to be number three and Hillary is not number one. What’s she doing in China anyway, can’t even bring up human rights. Ugh. She probably though she’d be pulling Barry’s strings by now. Rahmbo seems to have outflanked her there.
May 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Gary he’s probably got whatever is in the AF’s fleet.
Look on the bright side: He won’t be scaring New Yorkers with the 747 and the Gulfstream is probably cheaper to fly.
http://www.gulfstream.com/products/g500/
Has anyone ever wished, when he goes on one of his little trips, that he’d have a change of heart and just not go back to the W.H. ? (BIG snark)
May 30, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Oh here’s the pisser:
We touched down at JFK International Airport about 4:35 p.m. in the first plane of three.
If that was the case, he could have taken a plane bigger than the G5 but not as big as the 747.
Hell! Why didn’t he take the Acela? Isn’t it electric?
May 30, 2009 at 9:22 PM
If I hustle, I could get down to the theatre in time with my megaphone. When they come out the back, could yell, WHERE THE HELL’S OUR CHANGE!! Or, TORTURE..PHOTOS, TORTURE..PHOTOS!! Or, O-BUSH-MA..O-BUSH-MA!! I’d be on a plane to Gitmo in no time. I’ll twitter you guys if they nab me.
May 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Really. Office workers are eating out of the garbage in Chicago. Hillbuzz has seen this?
May 30, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Look, I’d be willing to nake the enormous sacrifice of having the Obamas in NYC if they’d just promise never, EVER to pretend to be President and First Lady ever again!
As for the economy, I find it so interesting that the article flogs the meme that the current meltdown is somehow Bill Clinton’s fault. Um, are they forgetting that Bush was president for 8 years? If Bush wanted to change anything Bill did, he most certainly had the ability to do so. So why isn’t it Bush’s fault?
I thought the article was mostly a subtle hit piece. I’m sorry to disagree, but I can’t help it. Bill didn’t make any mistakes in the campaign. As BeMindful says, he could not win no matter what he did. To claim that the words “fairy tale” were racist, and to have the corporate media promote that ridiculous meme with a straight face, well…Obama would never have gotten away with that in a sane country.
May 30, 2009 at 9:47 PM
transparency my ass.
The White House refused to say how much the trip was costing taxpayers.
May 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM
WTF is he flying the press with him??? this is all part of that NBC special, I’m sure…
Reporters weren’t allowed to see the soccer game. And there weren’t advance details on what the Obamas would see in Manhattan. But the Obamas took a smaller plane than the jumbo jet he usually uses. White House staff and reporters flew in two similar aircraft.
May 30, 2009 at 9:54 PM
I guess I was right on in my morning post about the “date night” being a part of the NBC propaganda mockumentary.
May 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM
You go Three Wickets!!!
All right guys, time to go get ready for 5/31 activities. Have a great rest of the evening!
May 30, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Really. Office workers are eating out of the garbage in Chicago. Hillbuzz has seen this?
It’s the DNC staff that Obie moved to Chicago from DC. Poor babies…:P
guess it was too close to the elipsis.
May 30, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I agree that the article was more of hit piece on Bill than anything else. It was filled with what had to be cherry-picked quotes designed to make him look petty and inconsequential when nothing is further from the truth.
Btw, Clyburn and the others who branded millions of white Democrats as racists can kiss my white ass. I was an activist for people of color for more than forty years and I suffered for those activities professionally and economically because it was the right thing to do. I supported Hillary because I thought that she was the best person for the job. Offhand apologies to the Big Dawg to not begin to resolve that issue for me.
May 30, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I read the article from page 1 to page 3, then I just skipped to the end because it really did piss me off. I agree that it was a hit piece. The sense I got from line 1 was that Bill is useless and irrelevant. No, I don’t think so. He may not have a hand in the everyday operations–and who’d want to with that stink bomb of an administration in charge–but he is far from irrelevant.
I was much more moved by that article by Fox News in which Bush 43 defended Bill and called him “brother” because Barbara Bush said “He and father are on stage together so much he’s like another son to me.” I thought that said more about political reconciliation than this new-fangled administration can ever hope to.
May 30, 2009 at 11:46 PM
LOL — thanks for reminding the Obots that they can kiss my ass!
May 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM
I thought it was a very favorable article and it was obvious that Bill Clinton had cooperated with the author. It was a real pleasure to read a story about the last Democratic President without feeling like I had been gut punched.
May 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM
I dunno JLouise…To me Clinton still comes off well, showing what he’s doing post-Presidency and those things he’s doing are making impacts world-wide.
Rahm Emmanuel or was it Podesta (?) said WJC wouldn’t be seen as a transformative Pres. because he came at the end of a conservative era but Obie would be seen as such cuz he’s at the beginning of a progressive (?) period, or something to that effect.
Bullshit, we’re coming off of 8 years of Bush II just as Clinton came in at the end of 8 years of Reagan and 4 of Bush I.
If the intent was to demean the 8 years of Clinton as President and to show he has no significance now, I think it failed. I think he’s been one of the most prolific former Presidents we’ve had. He surely eclipses Carter and Ford.
I dunno, I could be missing something you all are seeing. I’ve bookmarked the article and I’ll reread it again.
May 31, 2009 at 12:08 AM
This is CNN/Time’s coverage of the Bill & George show in Toronto. Seems pretty good to me.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901938,00.html?cnn=yes
Bill Clinton always makes a friend of people. In the end that’s how traditional politicians have been successful long term, not by running over people.
May 31, 2009 at 12:13 AM
OT but WTF is up with this?
A Florida Epidemic: Female Teachers Sleeping with Their Students
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901762,00.html
Is this like shark attacks a couple of years ago?
May 31, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Bill Clinton always makes a friend of people.
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I think he has said that came from living in a household with an abusive alcoholic father. It is an interesting experience to talk to him. You may be in a crowd but he makes you feel as if it is just the two of you and that you are the most important person in the room. This may be a contrivance or an inborn ability but it is very effective.
May 31, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I agree Clinton comes off well, but that’s because he’s an exceptional person. I do not think the article was meant to be flattering, though. There were far too many comparisons of Clinton to Obama where Obama came out (supposedly) as the winner, and far too many people who said he was irrelevant or skipped over his importance.
But hey, that’s just me. Your mileage may vary.
May 31, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I agree Clinton comes off well, but that’s because he’s an exceptional person.
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I hope that Bill and Hillary live long enough, so when political life is done, they will write “their” story together.
May 31, 2009 at 12:48 AM
madamab, Obama was barely mentioned in the Time story. It was almost all Bill and George.
SHV: I met Bill Clinton in ’92 and in ’08, both times in a crowd. You are absolurely right and I think it must be an inborn ability or all politicians would learn that skill at all costs.
May 31, 2009 at 12:54 AM
You are absolurely right and I think it must be an inborn ability
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I agree, in my experience, it is unique.
May 31, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Do you ever wonder why the two most qualified democrats have been demonized for years? Now by their own party. Is it jealousy, envy or stupidity?
Are the perfect no but who is? When I see the democratic party today I get sick at my stomach. No love for America, No caring for the people, The most unqualified people at the head of the party. How did this country come to this?
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAY
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PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
May 31, 2009 at 1:05 AM
SHV-that’s a book I’d love to read. I don’t know when HRC’s political life will end, if it’s with the SOS gig or if she’ll give something else a try, but it’ll be a helluva book!
May 31, 2009 at 6:23 AM
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May 31, 2009 at 6:24 AM
Thanks for this! It was the reason, when I mention the article in my blog I replaced “positive” with “non-acrimonious”. I was left feeling dirty after reading.
May 31, 2009 at 7:11 AM
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May 31, 2009 at 8:17 AM
Ralph> Obama is all over the second half of the article! That’s where all the Obama vs. Clinton comparisons are, and nobody – not Emmanuel, not Podesta, nobody – has anything nice to say about Bill. All the former Clinton staff members who work for Obama “roll their eyes” when they remember that Bill would get angry sometimes. Obama is “cool,” “respects the process” (?!), etc. etc. He’s “transformative,” he’s ushering in a new era, etc. There are a few pages of this.
May 31, 2009 at 1:14 PM
I did another 11 mile walk today and all the laundry….pardon me if I dont clean house or vacuum or dust. I will do the dirty dishes because dirty dishes are gross!
May 31, 2009 at 4:26 PM
DYB said:
Ralph> Obama is all over the second half of the article! That’s where all the Obama vs. Clinton comparisons are, and nobody – not Emmanuel, not Podesta, nobody – has anything nice to say about Bill. All the former Clinton staff members who work for Obama “roll their eyes” when they remember that Bill would get angry sometimes. Obama is “cool,” “respects the process” (?!), etc. etc. He’s “transformative,” he’s ushering in a new era, etc. There are a few pages of this.
Let’s see how the feeling are in 6 months or a year from now. Ya know, you can’t speak ill of your boss in print. At least until you’ve been kicked out of the door or you’ve left because of some disagreement. Hell, I remember reading about Clinton’s temper back when he was in office so to me, that’s nothing new. I don’t think Obama’s reviews are going to stay this favorable further down the road.
May 31, 2009 at 4:26 PM
DYB said:
Ralph> Obama is all over the second half of the article! That’s where all the Obama vs. Clinton comparisons are, and nobody – not Emmanuel, not Podesta, nobody – has anything nice to say about Bill. All the former Clinton staff members who work for Obama “roll their eyes” when they remember that Bill would get angry sometimes. Obama is “cool,” “respects the process” (?!), etc. etc. He’s “transformative,” he’s ushering in a new era, etc. There are a few pages of this.
Let’s see how the feelings are in 6 months or a year from now. Ya know, you can’t speak ill of your boss in print. At least until you’ve been kicked out of the door or you’ve left because of some disagreement. Hell, I remember reading about Clinton’s temper back when he was in office so to me, that’s nothing new. I don’t think Obama’s reviews are going to stay this favorable further down the road.
May 31, 2009 at 10:05 PM
*disgusted*
Wanna know why the NYT hates Big Dawg?
He raised their taxes.
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May 30, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I thought the article was great when I started reading it. (That’s when I recommended it here.) But then it went off the deep end at some point. The entire section on how amazing Obama has been and will continue to be, while Bill really has no place in the world, was really mind-boggling. At some point I realized that nobody interviewed in it had much good to say about Bill.